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Dupont/tyvek. Will they ever get it right?

Paul Lesieur

Community Member
NACBI Member
#23
Help me out Carl, what in your opinion is the best wrap for stucco? I have remodeled 100 year old homes where the tar paper was still pliable under the stucco. My only experience with stucco was being a lather for a few months down in Florida. The stucco was applied right over Kraft paper backed metal lath. I hear it didn't take long for problems to show up. I was a kid and nailed up whatever my boss told me to nail.
 

Carl Brown aka. StuccoBoy

Community Post Master
NACBI Member
#24
Paper back lath is a joke, take a look at some at HD,Lowes,Menards.

No way to get paper on paper metal on metal. Poor quality control is to have the blame it's a mfgrs. Defect!

As for housewraps one does not tuck their raincoat into their pants.

Vertical mulch and flashing cause way more damage, improper window and trim installation, lack of kick out diverters.

As for me on my own I would prefer Greenguard with 15 pound felt.

No more 1 coat stucco and put the color in the finish no paint.

Until they flash things to exit the water to the outside of the cladding like it calls for in the codes somewhere the problems are just gonna get worse. imho

Windows
Deck ledgers
Doors
Kickouts
Paint
Paperback lath
Problems.

There is more than what I have said here.
 

Carl Brown aka. StuccoBoy

Community Post Master
NACBI Member
#27
1 cote stucco mfgrs. most of them anyway call for elastomeric paint, so now everything under the stucco has problems and they want a CONDOM on the {stucco} that is very thin and more then likely not cured, and is prone to sever cracking due to the fine sand that they use.


I need to stop I am seeing RED!
 

Carl Brown aka. StuccoBoy

Community Post Master
NACBI Member
#29
Some people just like pushing buttons or turning the sticks/redwood trees in other people that might be part of somes problems their eyes got poked out when the sticks/redwood trees got turned!

Guess they should of had their heads on their shoulders and not in their BUTTS!
 

Paul Lesieur

Community Member
NACBI Member
#33
Thanks Carl, I did take some time to check out some of what you say. Aside from the application of better backing, I can say from my own experience that I could remove stucco and lath from a 20-30 year old home with ungloved hands, it took a pry bar and sweat to remove the stucco and lath from older buildings. Even with my limited experience its obvious some lathers and stucco men slap the system up, know it looks pretty good and move on to the next building and what once was a 50-100 year siding application is now a 20 year application. Its the new normal, in fact I take calls for inspecting million plus dollar homes and can sometimes see from the driveway the stucco is compromised. Water and OSB is not a good mix. Minnesota does have some good stucco companies but you don't see their signs much on medium priced homes.